The Great MovieFest Survey 2017
Results
Part Two

 

Survey Results: Part One
 
Points By Year
Points By Person
BIAS!

 

 


 

Points By Year

 

  Alaay TBP Elad Houdini MMZ TM Phil Snobby TOTAL AVG
Year 10 5.73 5.05 2.28 1.65 6.14 3.71 3.66 4.47 32.68 2.04
Year 2 0.64 2.63 0.05 2.81 4.66 1.00 0.44 2.06 16.47 1.18
Year 12 2.03 2.57 2.04 3.66 1.90 0.37 0.39 -1.54 11.43 0.76
Year 16 1.80 0.28 -- 0.82 -1.61 1.26 4.08 0.47 7.12 0.51
Year 11 -1.83 -3.39 0.07 -- 4.88 4.01 -- 3.41 6.45 0.50
Year 1 0.04 3.33 -0.10 -2.50 0.08 3.27 2.33 -- 7.01 0.46
Year 4 1.46 -0.89 -1.56 0.77 -0.49 -0.50 -1.54 4.29 1.54 0.10
Year 8 -0.24 -0.30 -1.61 0.36 2.69 0.01 -- 0.01 0.96 0.06
Year 17 -0.14 -4.56 0.22 3.32 -4.05 2.60 2.30 0.10 -0.21 -0.01
Year 6 0.86 1.25 5.38 1.87 -- -2.24 -2.58 -5.52 -0.99 -0.07
Year 9 -1.57 -2.66 0.59 -4.25 -1.45 2.37 -- 4.13 -2.84 -0.18
Year 14 -2.12 0.27 1.13 2.61 -4.99 -1.94 -0.81 -0.71 -6.56 -0.44
Year 7 -0.17 0.96 -3.52 -7.07 6.07 -3.68 -0.87 1.18 -7.09 -0.44
Year 15 0.50 -6.84 -0.40 3.27 -2.99 -0.93 -0.71 -3.60 -11.70 -0.69
Year 13 -2.47 -1.03 -4.32 -2.22 2.67 -1.00 0.17 -3.13 -11.32 -0.71
Year 3 -5.35 3.68 3.31 -2.93 0.48 -3.74 -2.53 -3.12 -10.18 -0.73
Year 5 0.81 -1.05 -4.12 -2.18 0.51 -5.30 0.69 -3.31 -13.96 -0.93

 

Wow, look at all those pointless, impossible-to-follow numbers! And associated with meaningless years that have almost no resonance! Maybe, uh... maybe let's break this down a bit so it isn't utter gibberish.

 

Year 10 | 32.68 pts | 2.04 avg

Notable Films: Black Dynamite (#1 | 14.22), Primer (#5 | 9.32), In Bruges (#10 | 9.16), He Got Game (#26 | 6.36), King of Kong (#27 | 6.31), Observe and Report (#210 | -3.68), Angus, Thongs, and Perfect Snogging (#217 | -4.08), Bitch Slap (#235 | -5.50)

Honestly, the bottom films weren't that great, and Year 10 really packed on some heavy negative points with a few awful films. That being said, Bitch Slap is hardly one of the classic flops, so instead let's talk about the top crop.

And man, there are a lot of big names. I've already gushed about Year 10 in length, so not much use in pointing out how utterly it crushed its competition (3 fucking films in the Top 10). Instead let's focus on the votes.

First off, this is one of only two years to receive positive points from every attendee. The most tepid response came from Houdini with a +1.65. The numbers are hard to track so here's a rough conversion: consider a super vote to be either a +/- value of 1.0 and a normal vote either +/- 0.7 (it varies per person, but this is roughly accurate). As such, if 0.00 is a default break-even year, Houdini was roughly one like and one super like vote over a default year. So Houdini enjoyed it, but not exceptionally so.

On the other side of the spectrum is MMZ, with a huge +6.14 for Year 10. This essentially means when compared to a break-even 0.00 year, MMZ super liked six more films in Year 10 than the a "standard" year, which is a pretty hefty swing. Year 10 was so dominant that even if you take out the top two biggest voters for it (MMZ at +6.14 and me at +5.73), it *still* beats out its competition. It is the favorite year of Alaay, TBP, MMZ, TM, and Snobby, and - aside from Houdini - places in everyone else's Top 3. It had more super likes (29) than the bottom year had regular likes (28). It had 19 Top Fifteen appearances, which is 12 over the average. We shall never see its like again.

 

Year 2 | 16.47 pts | 1.18 avg

Notable Films: Dark City (#4 | 9.61), Leprechaun in the Hood (#18 | 6.94), Donnie Darko (#54 | 3.52), Anywhere But Here (#197 | -2.98), How High (#216 | -4.07)

Year 2 would have broken into the positives based on its top films, but it took a wide lead over the pack largely because its worse films really weren't that bad. At -4.07 and the 216th place overall, How High is topped only by SLC Punk! for best-performing Worst Film of the Year. The other stinkers were Anywhere But Here (-3.19) and Ronin (-2.73), neither of which are anywhere close to bottom-tier quality films - though Ronin, certainly, has had its storied history.

Even with its drop, Lep in the Hood is still a big-name film, and Dark City has always been near the top of the overall film list. With quality films in Donnie Darko (3.52), Run, Lola, Run (3.22) and South Park (2.76), Year 2 has a distinct honor of being among MovieFest's finest.

It is not, however, everyone's favorite. Alaay, Elad, and Phil were all sub 0.65, which means they were each a single like vote over a break-even year. MMZ contributed a huge 4.66 points, but it bears mentioning that because MMZ only submitted one film for his Bottom Fifteen, his totals are overall strongly in the positive without all those negative points to balance him out to zero. Year 2's other fans came from TBP, Houdini, and Snobby, who collectively gave it the equivilent of a boost of +6 super likes over its competition. It's a distant 2nd to Year 10, but breaking a 1.00 average is still pretty impressive.

 

Year 12 | 11.43 pts | 0.76 avg

Notable Films: Drive (#2 | 11.33), Kaboom (#15 | 7.70), Troll Hunter (#31, 5.87), Truck Turner (#223, -4.47), A Good Day to be Black & Sexy (#230 | -4.78), The Six Wives of Henry LaFey (#242, -6.23)

So while The Six Wives was utter garbage and we should never let The Man forget it, I was surprised by the heavy dislikes tossed at Truck Turner, which seemed mostly inoffensive and was, as a reminder, turned off about halfway in. But such is the way of the survey.

Year 12 lives by the strength of having the #2 and #15 rated films, which help pull it strongly into the positives. Essentially the non-Drive films cancelled each other out, leaving Drive's massive total to pull it into the positives.

It had its detractor, however, with Snobby (-1.54) considering it overall negative, and both TM (0.37) and Phil (0.39) didn't seem to give much a shit either way. Its biggest fan was Houdini with +3.66 (making this his favorite year), and it's not surprising when you realize he cast a single super dislike compared to nine likes that year, two of them super. The rest of the crew were far more positive, and the Drive-heavy Year 12 was another solid entry into the list.

 

Year 16 | 7.12 pts | 0.51 avg

Notable Films: Staten Island Summer (#6 | 9.29), The Lobster (#12 | 8.00), Green Room (#17, 6.97), The Invitation (#194, -2.96), Creep (#248, -7.69), Chi-Raq (#254 | -9.91)

With three films in the Top 20 and the best new film in the list, it's not surprising to see Year 16 towards the top of the crop. That being said, the top two and bottom two films of that year essentially cancel each other out, what with the massive failures of Chi-Raq and Creep, so frankly Green Room was left to carry a lot of the credit for overall pushing Year 16 into the positive.

This is the highest-ranking year that didn't have all eight attendees, and once again there is a lone detractor, this time in MMZ (-1.61). The other positive votes were all fairly timid except for Phil (+4.08), who only cast five votes that year, all of them likes, and put Staten Island Summer in his Top Fifteen. That and that alone was more than enough to set Year 16 ahead of the pack, though frankly it and the next two years were close enough to roughly be considered a tie. If the top three years were the great ones, these next three were merely good.

 

Year 11 | 6.45 pts | 0.50 avg

Notable Films: Best Worst Movie (#39 | 4.83), Unstoppable (#46 | 4.13), The Expendables (#229 | -4.77)

Year 11 was all about being inoffensive, given that its two best films were abysmally low on the list. Aside from The Expendables, Year 11 didn't accumulate very many negative points, so its smattering of mid-range films easily pushed it into the positives. And while it technically had a lower overall point total than Year 1, my ranking is based on average, so Year 11, with fewer films, just barely eeked its competitor out. (Again, though, Years 16, 11, and 1 are essentially tied.)

That being said, for such a middling year it evoked some strong responses. MMZ and TM both had it above +4.00 and Snobby above +3.00, so it was mostly a combination of TBP and Alaay, the Statler and Wardolf of MovieFest, holding it back. (Elad, with his +0.07, had almost as much impact as Houdini and Phil, who didn't attend.) This was actually The Man's highest-rated year with a total 8 likes, two of them super, and a Top Fifteen entry. (And yes, every movie he proposed that year received one of those likes.)

 

Year 1 | 7.01 pts | 0.46 avg

Notable Films: Cube (#16 | 7.57), Con Air (#43 | 4.29), Saving Private Ryan (#179 | -2.31), SLC Punk! (#198, -3.01)

You've heard me say it all survey: SLC Punk! and its -3.01 average. When your worst film does that well, there's no way you'll wind up in the negatives. Year 1 had a few other weak films (and you guys continue hating on Saving Private Ryan's ten minutes of screen time), but otherwise it was a powerfully inoffensive year. I'm sure it being 16 years ago and us forgetting all the bad moments didn't have any effect whatsoever.

Speaking of forgetting, we kinda forgot about Con Air with it falling out of everyone's Top Fifteen lists, leaving Cube the lone standout for that year among a sea of mediocrity. Still, it was good enough mediocrity to cancel out the bad, which puts Year 1 in that trifeca of "good not great" years.

The results are a cluster of people who didn't care (Alaay, Elad, MMZ), people who were strongly in favor (TBP, TM, Phil), and Houdini (-2.50) alone in his corner hating on our premiere. (His votes were actually identical: four likes, one super, four dislikes, one super, one Bottom Fifteen appearance, one Top Fifteen appearance. The major swing factor is that the one Bottom Fifteen appearance came from his most-hated film, Yellow Submarine, as well as the fact that his dislikes outweighed his likes due to scoring adjustment.) The most emphatically positive voter was TBP, which isn't saying much as he had four likes and ten indifferent votes. But because of my bizarre scoring system that in TBP's case inflated the values of indifferent votes, it ultimately gave Year 1 a strong boost. Hurray for shitty math!

 

Year 4 | 1.54 pts | 0.10 avg

Notable Films: The Virgin Suicides (#14 | -7.87), The Warriors (#21 | 6.63), Princess Mononoke (#22, 6.61), 24 Hours in London (#220 | -4.35), Cat Ballou (#221 | -4.39), From Dusk Till Dawn 2: Texas Blood Money (#239 | -5.78), Leprechaun: Back 2 tha Hood (#245 | -6.88)

With three films in the Top 25, you'd think Year 4 would do better for itself, though unfortunately a slew of heavily disliked films undid all the good of its best films, and it stumbled out with a meager +1.54 overall record. (For comparison: remember Year 10 with its +32.68? That shows the massive gap between this two. You want further illustration of Year 10's greatness? Year 4's total (1.54) is less than the votes cast by Year 10's least-liked attendee, Houdini at +1.65.)

Our results are a mixed bag of indifference, mostly in the sub +/- 1.50 range, and the only standout is Snobby at +4.29. He had three super likes and two Top Fifteen appearances this year, explaining the big shift. Year 4 is interesting in that it wasn't a "too old to remember" year, but rather a victim of having a heavy spread of very good and very bad films, pulling it just slightly above average.

 

Year 8 | 0.92 pts | 0.06 avg

Notable Films: Crank (#9 | 9.16), Sad Movie (#40 | 4.59), Glengarry Glen Ross (#49 | 3.89), Red Dawn (#219 | -4.26), Death at a Funeral (#227 | -4.73), The Story of the Weeping Camel (#243 | -6.53)

Year 8 benefited strongly from the recovery of Tampopo (from -5.76 to -1.78) and Lil' Pimp (from -6.36 to -2.13). Even with Red Dawn taking a hit, those two films shedding so many points was enough to just barely keep Year 8 in the positives by a meager 0.96. (Again: remove a single super like vote and it falls into the negatives.)

This was another tepid year, with Alaay, TBP, Houdini, TM, and Snobby all with a score less than +/- 0.40. MMZ, with his inflated positive totals due to not having a proper Bottom Fifteen, carries the year at 2.69 points. While his votes were pretty much straight down the middle, his two Top Fifteen appearances for Crank and Sad Movie were the difference maker in keeping our last positive MovieFest year in the positives.

 

Year 17 | -0.21 pts | -0.01 avg

Notable Films: Everybody Wants Some (#11 | 8.20), Coherence (#20 | 6.80), Weiner (#38 | 5.22), Jackie (#233 | -5.28), The Void (#240 | -5.79), All Hallows' Eve (#244 | -6.54)

Despite deriding it as the worst year ever... I kinda do that every year. Instead Year 17 was as middle of the pack as it gets, averaging out a paltry -0.01. What really surprised me was that it wasn't as middle-of-the-road as I anticipated, with big showings for its top films and equally big showing for its bottom films. A lot of this naturally has to do with recency bias, and this is one year that I expect to shed a lot of points four years from now when I force you all to do this stupid shit all over again.

TBP and MMZ were the big haters this time around, tossing out a combined 16 dislikes, 9 of them super, and two Bottom Fifteen appearances (this is against their 9 likes, and only one of those super). With such resistance, it needed the combined efforts of Houdini, TM, and Phil to keep it in the middle. (This was Houdini's second-favorite year, trailing Year 12 by a mere 0.34.) We'll see what 2021 brings when you've all utterly forgotten every detail of this mind-numbling mess.

 

Year 6 | -0.99 pts | -0.07 avg

Notable Films: Battle Royale (#19 | 6.86), The Squid and the Whale (#37 | 5.22), 11:14 (#42 | 4.31), Cecil B. Demented (#222 | -4.41), Fronterz (#241 | -5.81), Coffee and Cigarettes (#253 | -9.22)

No year wants to turn back the clock as badly as Year 6. Since we first did this survey in 2009, Year 6 has watched Battle Royale fall from 14.20 to 6.86 and 11:14 from 8.45 to 4.31. Both were one-time members of the Top 10, and even Man of the House slipped from 5.30 to 2.17. So as bad as Fronterz and Coffee and Cigarettes may be, Year 6's greatest weakness is our dwindling memories.

The lone holdout is Eladamri, back when he bothered with MovieFest, whose +5.82 for the year easily makes it his favorite. He gave it eight likes, four of them super, and all of those super films factored into his Top Fifteen. He was the only person to put Man of the House, 11:14, and Dorian Blues on a Top Fifteen list. That was all for naught, however, as his efforts were totally cancelled out by Snobhunter, who gave it a -5.52. Snobby's response wasn't quite as extreme, but eight dislikes, two of them super, and two Bottom Fifteen appearances will definitely leave an impact on a year. (This was the least-favorite year for both Snobby and Phil (-2.58).) If Year 17 was pretty much dead in the middle, Year 6 is our first definitive "bad" year, albeit by a meager -0.99, or one super like vote.

 

Year 9 | -2.84 pts | -0.18 avg

Notable Films: The Fall (#23 | 6.55), Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog (#24 | 6.54), Let the Right One In (#28 | 6.15), Wendy and Lucy (#44 | 4.27), Brazil (#214 | -3.90), Expelled (#236 | -5.69), Who Made the Potato Salad? (#249 | -7.74)

I had to check the math a couple times, as with a top four that strong I was shocked to find Year 4 in the negatives. True, Dr. Horrible and Let the Right One In both suffered from 2013, but I was still surprised. A lot of this has to do with my continued befuddlement over the perpetual negativity for Who Made the Potato Salad?. It was the fucking Magic film. There's no fucking way any of you guys could name even a single detail about it. (Expelled was garbage and Brazil was an utter failure, but Potato Salad is the one that always puzzles me.)

Much of the downswing this year comes from TBP (-2.66) and Houdini (-4.25). Houdini in particular only had three dislikes for the entire year, but they happened to all be super dislikes and all three made his Bottom Fifteen. The year's primary defender was Snobhunter with eight likes, four of them super, and a Top Fifteen vote. A final interesting note is that our remaining six years were each attended by all eight members, so in general full attendance happened to correlate, however slightly, with negativity. It was almost as though our combined presence makes things suck more.

 

Year 14 | -6.56 pts | -0.044 avg

Notable Films: You're Next (#33 | 5.61), Teen Beach Movie (#34 | 5.52), The Bling Ring (#215 | -4.03), Ewoks: The Battle for Endor (#226 | -4.68)

If Year 1 survived based on having no truly awful movies, Year 14 suffered from having few very good ones. 9 of its 15 films fell into the negatives, and again my wacky scoring system hurt it, as Phil, who voted Indifferent for every film, actually wound up casting a total -0.81.

But that -0.81 is nothing compared to MMZ's -4.99, making this his most-hated year. There may not have been any Bottom Fifteen votes from him, but 9 dislikes, two of them super, compared to a measly two likes is indicative of where he stands. The closest thing you could call a fan would be Houdini at +2.61, which doesn't say much to Year 14's credit. Worth noting that it essentially came into a tie with Year 7 at a -0.44 average. Speaking of...

 

Year 7 | -7.09 pts | -0.44 avg

Notable Films: Elephant (#29 | 6.07), Mysterious Skin (#35 | 5.32), Oldboy (#45 | 4.21), The Guru (#231 | -4.87), Bandidas (#232 | -4.88), Farce of the Penguins(#256 | -10.72)

Yet another year with no real standouts. While Elephant was good, it alone couldn't hold off the titanic disaster called Farce of the Penguins, which, like Galactus, swallowed the better films into a void of suck.

This was MMZ's second-favorite year, clocking in at a huge +6.07. He liked 9 of the first 12 films that year and tossed a Top Fifteen vote the way of both The Baxter and Oldboy. His efforts were cancelled out by Elad (-3.52), Snobby (-3.68), and the man of strong opinions: Houdini (-7.07). That -7.07 makes this the most negative votes cast against a single year for any attendee, and it was done via only five dislikes, all of them super, and three of them on his Bottom Fifteen. Way to hate, Houdini.

 

Year 15 | -11.70 pts | -0.69 avg

Notable Films: Kung Fury (#8 | 9.21), Blood Simple. (#51 | 3.82), Predestination (#52 | 3.80), Dead Snow 2: Red vs. Dead (#228 | -4.77), Don't Be a Menace (#246 | -7.07), Leprechaun: Origins (#247 | -7.46)

Kung Fury alone couldn't save this year, as it consituted the largest drop between a best and second-best film of the year with a comical 5.39 dip before you get to Blood Simple.. Elad and Phil didn't bother voting this year, leaving the burden on everyone else. The only positive votes aside from Alaay's 0.50 came from (you guessed it) Houdini at 3.27. He's blown out of the water by TBP with a -6.84, which easily makes this TheBluePlayer's least-favorite year. (He gave it only two like votes compared to nine dislikes, three of them super, and two Bottom Fifteen appearances.) MMZ (-2.99) and Snobby (-3.60) also weren't big fans.

This was, for the record, the worst-placing of the post-2013 candidates.

 

Year 13 | -11.32 pts | -0.71 avg

Notable Films: Goon (#13 | 7.88), Timecrimes (#36 | 5.28), Premium Rush (#57 | 3.52), Black Butterfly (#225 | -4.62), Give My Regards to Broad Street (#238 | -5.77), Liberal Arts (#255 | -10.39)

When I saw that Goon had once again crushed it, I thought for sure that Year 13 would land on its feet. I was of course forgetting to factor in Liberal Arts, as well as the fact that the bottom six films for this year clocked in at a whopping -30.96. Basically tied with Year 15 as "categorically bad", Year 13 just couldn't work its way out of that batch of negatives.

This one was death by a thousand cuts, coming primarily from Alaay (-2.47), Elad (-4.32), Houdini (-2.22), and Snobby (-3.13). MMZ defended it, marginally, with a 2.67, but its easy to see how the others were able to cancel him out. It was Elad's least-favorite year.

 

Year 3 | -10.18 pts | -0.73 avg

Notable Films: From Dusk Till Dawn (#7 | 9.27), Y Tu Mama Tambien (#48 | 3.92), PCU (#58 | 3.52), I'm Gonna Git You Sucka (#234 | -5.39), Very Bad Things (#252 | -8.15), Gia (#257 | -13.18)

It's honestly a miracle that Year 3 isn't our worst year overall. With the one-two-three punch of Gia, Very Bad Things, and Sucka, that alone should be enough to consitute a catastrophic failure. Luckily From Dusk Till Dawn, even if its points may have dwindled, was enough to keep it from that particular dishonor, though there wasn't much else going for Year 3 aside from the former #1 Film of All Time.

Not surprising given my previous paragraph, I absolutely despised this year at -5.35. All three of the movies I mentioned made my Bottom Fifteen, and I'm the only person not to cast a single super like for any film that year. This isn't to say I'm alone here, with Houdini (-2.93), The Man (-3.74), Phil (-2.53), and Snobhunter (-3.12) all casting heavy votes against it. Oddly for a year this weak, it has two defenders this time: TBP (3.68) and Elad (3.31). It was, in fact, both of their second-favorite years. TBP only cast a single (super) dislike for Gia, whereas Elad tossed eight likes its way, two of them super, and one on his Top Fifteen.

But what, praytell, could be worse than the year that contained Gia...?

 

Year 5 | -13.96 pts | -0.93 avg

Notable Films: The Dangerous Lives of Altar Boys (#3 | 9.78), Pieces of April (#25 | 6.46), National Lampoon's: Blackball (#58 | 3.46), Urbania (#237 | -5.73), Divorce: Italian Style (#250 | -7.77), Out On Parole (#251 | -7.94)

While not as heavily polarizing as Year 3, what you don't see from Year 5's Notable Films section is that - aside from Chasing Liberty at 0.02 - every other film this year fell into the negatives. So with the top and bottom films cancelling each other out, it fell to the rest of that particular fest to reach a verdict. And the verdict... was doom.

Year 5 was also the lone year with no serious defender. The only positives votes came from Alaay (0.81), MMZ (0.52), and Phil (0.69). That's not much of a defense. Against this came the threesome of Snobby (-3.31), Elad (-4.12), and The Man (-5.30), the latter of whom voted it his least-favorite year. Those three combined for 20 dislikes, only four of them super, but five of them on Bottom Fifteen years. Year 5 in general simply suffered from an overwhelming number of dislikes. There isn't a huge difference between the bottom four films - and not nearly the gap that occurs at the top of this table - but still Year 5 stands out as the clear loser.

Speaking of losers... let's take a humiliating look at how badly I (and perhaps some other people) did!

 

 

Points By Person

 

Proposer # of Films ++ Pts -- Pts TOTAL AVG 2013 Total 2013 Avg 2009 Total 2009 Avg
Snobby 24 69.42 -24.09 45.39 1.89 35.90 2.11 15.95 1.45
The Man 67 161.28 -102.92 58.36 0.87 79.48 1.77 55.95 1.93
Houdini 18 41.13 -30.38 10.75 0.60 -7.14 -0.71 3.70 0.62
Eladamri 25 44.33 -37.53 6.81 0.27 12.84 0.54 12.35 0.62
Alaay 42 51.68 -54.80 -3.13 -0.07 22.92 0.74 18.25 0.83
TBP 12 15.01 -22.67 -7.66 -0.64 -1.80 -0.15 6.25 0.63
Phil 30 27.30 -52.98 -25.68 -0.86 -27.50 -1.37 -14.95 -0.88
MMZ 35 46.24 -98.43 -52.18 -1.49 -81.20 -2.54 -77.15 -5.14

 

Snobhunter

 

Film Year Pts
Black Dynamite 10 14.22
Drive 12 11.33
Kung Fury 15 9.21
The Virgin Suicides 4 7.87
Mysterious Skin 7 5.32
Wendy and Lucy 9 4.27
Ewoks: The Battle for Endor 14 -4.68
Jackie 17 -5.28
The Void 17 -5.79

 

The King remains the King. While once again The Man outscored Snobhunter based on total points, Snobhunter continues to have a better average. (Because I equalized scores this year I considered not going by average, but then MMZ's lack of Bottom Fifteen caused an inbalance, and frankly the +1.00 average gap between Snobby and TM is worth mentioning.)

Snobhunter continues to survive based on having a very low negative total. His -24.09 is only outclassed by TBP's -22.67, but he did so with nearly twice as many films. While this bottom three films shown above are pretty bad, they constitute 65% of his overall negative votes. Of those 24 films, only 7 are in the negatives, so overall Snobhunter excels at selecting films we will generally enjoy.

That being said, the majority of his worse films have actually come in the recent years. His per-film average slipped from 2.11 in 2013 to 1.89 largely because of the 7 films he has proposed since 2013: 5 are in the negatives, 2 come in below 0.50, and then there is his lone hit: Kung Fury. Frankly he should be doing a lot worse based on that, but the new scoring system significantly helped Snobby, with many of his mid-tier positive films each gaining 1 or 2 points a piece. Ultimately with his closest competitor suffering a noticeable setback, Snobhunter is clearly the king for the time being, but he'll have to rebound from these past few years if he wants to keep that going.

 

The Man

 

Film Year Pts
The Dangerous Lives of Altar Boys 5 9.78
Dark City 2 9.61
Primer 10 9.32
From Dusk Till Dawn 3 9.27
Crank 8 9.16
Everybody Wants Some!! 17 8.20
Cube 1 7.57
The Six Wives of Henry LaFey 12 -6.23
Leprechaun: Origins 15 -7.46
Creep 16 -7.69
Very Bad Things 3 -8.15
Chi-Raq 16 -9.91

 

At some point I needed to cut The Man's Best Of films so that table didn't stretch forever, but just know he had several other big hits in Coherence, The Warriors, The Fall, Dr. Horrible, Troll 2, Troll Hunter, and Crank: High Voltage, all coming in within the Top 35. He ultimately wound up with an insane 20 films in the Top 50 list. With so many big-name films to his credit, it's no surprise The Man has a dominant +161.28 positive points to his name, and he stands as the premiere leader when it comes to selecting our most memorable films.

A lot of this is a factor of his film total. His 67 films is a solid +25 over his closest competitor, which is what tends to happen when you bring 8,000 selections to every MovieFest. This double-edged sword comes with a price, namely those -102.92 negative points, a total higher even than the legendary MagicManZach, so let's not pretend that The Man's strategy is foolproof.

The Man also suffered from some sub-par selections since 2013. While Everybody Wants Some!! and Coherence were big hits, they couldn't do much against the emergence of Chi-Raq, Creep, Leprechaun: Origins, and Dead Snow 2: Red vs. Dead. While the latter will likely improve over the years, I can't see the former three rebounding any time soon, at least not so long as MMZ is there to lambast Chi-Raq.

Ultimately The Man, by sheer virtue of numbers, is capable of producing both wonderful and horrible selections, with plenty falling inbetween. The numbers show that clearly he has brought more good to the table than ill, but that doesn't mean he won't have a bomb every now and then.

 

Houdini

 

Film Year Pts
Goon 13 7.88
Green Room 16 6.97
The King of Kong 10 6.31
You're Next 14 5.61
The Bling Ring 14 -4.03
A Good Day to be Black & Sexy 12 -4.78
Bandidas 7 -4.88
Bitch Slap 10 -5.50

 

Surprise surprise, as Houdini has clawed his way out of the negatives to once-again return to the realm of the above-average proposers. True, his +10.75 total pales in comparison to both Snobhunter and The Man, but that shouldn't take away the signifcant upswing Houdini has made to get himself into the third-place position.

Goon continues to be his champion film, but it's not alone anymore. Houdini benefited the most from these past few years, as of his 9 positive films, a solid 6 came since 2013. His worst-placing post-2013 film is The Bling Ring, which, while bad, is easily canceled out by the various quality films he has added in the past few years. Houdini still has a small sample size, but in general his post-2013 showing has proven that for every Bon Cop, Bad Cop there's a Green Room right around the corner, and I for one will be far more willing to champion Houdini's weird-ass movies until he makes a single blunder, at which point I'll turn on him like a hawk.

There also might be another reason that Houdini did so well this year, but we'll get to that in a little bit....

 

Eladamri

 

Film Year Pts
Leprechaun in the Hood 2 6.94
Pieces of April 5 6.46
He Got Game 10 6.36
Elephant 7 6.07
The Squid and the Whale 6 5.22
Cyberstalkers 13 -4.13
The Guru 7 -4.87
The Story of the Weeping Camel 8 -6.53
Leprechaun: Back 2 tha Hood 4 -6.88

 

With our Blockbuster days behind us, it's improbable that we'll see much change in Elad's scores from here forward as he'll never willingly prepare in advance for MovieFest. He added only one movie since 2013, the forgettable Sex and Breakfast back in Year 14, and only 5 of his 25 films came since the 2009 survey. We are looking now at ancient history.

And it's a storied history. Living by the Lep and dying by the Lep, Elad's bookmarkers are important, but they do not define his entire collection. At one point Elad was a titan with some of our biggest hits, but the memory of those films is beginning to fade. His baby, Lep in the Hood has dropped from 11.25 pts to 6.94. The rest continue to hold onto their points, but it's unlikely that Pieces of April or Elephant will ever break back into the Top 25, not with competition continuing to increase with the years.

Ultimately I expect Elad will continue to stay pat. For as many of his films that will fall off of Top Fifteen lists, an equal amount will fall from Bottom Fifteens, until he exists entirely based on yearly points and lost nostalgia. Maybe some day our champion will return, but also he obviously won't because he never really cared that much to begin with. Until chaos can once again gain a foothold in the selection process, we've like to seen our last Eladamri film.

 

Alaay

 

Film Year Pts
Princess Mononoke 4 6.61
Let the Right One In 9 6.15
Sad Movie 8 4.59
11:14 6 4.31
Unstoppable 11 4.13
The Star Wars Holiday Special 12 -3.74
I'm a Cyborg But That's OK 15 -3.98
The Expendables 11 -4.77
All Hallows' Eve 17 -6.54
Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood 15 -7.07

 

Lo how the mighty have fallen! Alaay, the perennial runner-up to Snobhunter and The Man, has slipped into the negatives. Woe is the darkness that has befallen us!

Plenty was said about the Fall of the House of Alaay so this shouldn't be much of a shock. The past four years have been disastrous, which is amazing when you realize that three of those four years he only proposed a single film. Almost no one faired as worse as he did with this new scoring system, with older films like The Spirit, The Star Wars Holiday Special, Passionada and The Expendables suffering big drops. Coupled with the fact that 3 of his bottom 4 came since 2013 and it's clear that Alaay has definitely lost his footing.

The other negative is that Alaay has simply never had a huge hit like virtually everyone else. 11:14 broke into the Top 10 way back on the first survey, but since then he's been nowhere close, and some of his higher-ranked films are still considered "good but not great". His best film, Princess Mononoke clocks in at #22, which means his "Best Film" places below every other member's Best Film. It used to be that the general weakness of Alaay's better films was offset by a lack of bombs, but the past few years has definitely changed that, and at this rate it won't be long before he will forever be locked in among the weaker candidates. It's almost as though the fact that he stopped watching or caring about movies has in some way hindered his ability to find decent films. Who'da thunk?

 

TheBluePlayer

 

Film Year Pts
Battle Royale 6 6.86
L.A. Confidential 3 3.17
Once 8 2.75
Genesis 6 -3.84
Angus, Thongs, and Perfect Snogging Year -4.08
Who Made the Potato Salad? 9 -7.74

 

If Elad is ancient history, TheBluePlayer is fossilized. With no new films in the past 5 years (and only 2 in the past 8), TBP's involvement in this survey is negligible.

Because of his low number of selections, any slight change will affect TBP considerably, so the big fall-off for Battle Royale and the continued decline of Who Made the Potato Salad? was enough to constitute a noticeable downward shift. Like Elad, it's unlikely we'll ever see a new BluePlayer film, but - that being said - it's also possible he'll bring a bunch next year just to spite me. Such are his ways.

 

Phil

 

Film Year Pts
Staten Island Summer 16 9.29
Dorian Blues 6 3.84
National Lampoon's: Blackball 5 Pts
Malibu's Most Wanted 7 -3.65
How High 2 -4.07
24 Hours in London 4 -4.35
Fronterz 6 -5.81
Out On Parole 5 -7.94

 

Even though his point total didn't change much from 2013 to 2017 (-27.50 to -25.68), the fact that Phil added nine new films during those four years (nearly 1/3 of his entire selection) without suffering any point loss was enough to bring his average up considerably. His only major success came from Staten Island Summer, but it makes a big difference when you've never been anywhere close to the Top 10. (Last time his best film, Man of the House, clocked in way down at #39.)

Even with Staten Island Summer and a few modest successes, Phil is solidly in the negatives... because the majority of his films are negative. Of those 30 films, 21 are negative, meaning there's more than a 70% chance that a Phil-proposed movie will be below average. The one consolation is that most of his truly awful things are over a decade old, and his duds since Year 7 have mostly been in the -2 to -3 pt range, which is a far cry from Out On Parole's -7.94. So while Phil can't necessarily argue that he's had a smattering of success, at least he can claim not to have made any huge blunders in over a decade, regardless of what you folks may think about November Rule's 8 minutes of screentime.

 

MagicManZach

 

Film Year Pts
In Bruges 10 9.16
The Lobster 16 8.00
Kaboom 12 7.70
Teen Beach Movie 14 5.52
Film Year Pts
Expelled 9 -5.69
Urbania 5 -5.73
Give My Regards to Broad Street 13 -5.77
Divorce: Italian Style 5 -7.77
Coffee and Cigarettes 6 -9.22
Liberal Arts 13 -10.39
Farce of the Penguins 7 -10.72
Gia 3 -13.18

 

I spoke at great length in 2013 about MMZ's hefty improvement, and that upward trend continues in 2017, though perhaps not at the same clip as before. Previously his -5.14 average from 2009 was so magnificently awful as to render everything else irrelevent, and simply participating in MovieFest was enough to guarantee one an overall positive place in the ranks. With his point total dropping as he continues to add more films, that average is getting dangerously close to... well, not the positives, but at least below the -1.00 mark.

Unlike Phil, MMZ actually has a few big films to his credit with the #10, #12, and #15 overall. Like Phil, he too hasn't made a blunder in a while, with his worse film since 2013 coming in at #166: American Pie: Reunion (-1.68). Of course MMZ only had four films in those four years, but the low total for Reunion is easily offset by the big showings from The Lobster and Teen Beach Movie, not to mention a big boost for Kaboom and Sex Drive with the new format.

Yeah, OK, he still has a bunch of really, really shitty films, and Farce of the Penguins in particular took a tumble from 2013, but like Phil he can argue that it's been a while since he had a true stinker. (2013 brought us both Liberal Arts and Give My Regards to Broad Street, but otherwise his worse-placing films were all pre-2009.) MMZ's problem is that he both needs to keep up this positive ratio but he also needs to get through more than one film a year or else it'll take a long-ass time for him to break even, which naturally makes me wonder how much of an impact McGruber might have made. All in all we wish MMZ success in his slow climb out of mediocrity, and we'll check back in four years time to see if he's able to leapfrog Phil out of the gutter.

Anyway, it's time to shit all over everyone.

 

 

Bias

 

Proposer # Films Regular Results Without Their Votes Difference
Pts Avg Pts Avg Pts Perc
The Man 67 58.36 0.87 22.16 0.33 36.20 163.37%
Phil 30 -25.68 -0.86 -45.05 -1.50 19.38 43.01%
Eladamri 25 6.81 0.27 -5.52 -0.22 12.32 223.40%
MMZ 35 -52.18 -1.49 -63.85 -1.82 11.67 18.27%
Snobhunter 24 45.34 1.89 34.01 1.42 11.33 33.30%
Houdini 18 10.75 0.60 2.56 0.14 8.19 320.17%
TBP 12 -7.66 -0.64 -8.16 -0.68 0.50 6.07%
Alaay 42 -3.13 -0.07 -2.72 -0.06 -0.41 -15.10%

 

So yeah, once again The Man takes the crown of "Guy Who Cast the Most Points For Himself" with a crazy +36.20 pts coming from his own survey. For reference, that's almost the identical score of Year 10, so great was the gap of points he cast for himself.

But I'm done harping on The Man. While he may have taken the overall point lead, an argument can be made that because The Man has a high point total already, it makes sense that his portion of votes cast for himself would also be large. Not necessarily +36.20 large, but still, it makes sense that maybe we should look at this from another angle.

So the other angle is percentage. In this case if you take his unbias 22.16 pts, he essentially cast a +163.37% increase to get to his overall 58.36. Again, that's a pretty big increase, but you see there are some other serious offenders.

The most eye-popping comes from the man of the hour: Houdini. While he made impressive strides to make it to 3rd place, when you remove his own votes he suffers a 8.19 pt drop. While that's much less than The Man's 36.20, it actually means that Houdini increased his own point total by 320.17%. (Some will argue that using percentages is silly and point to Houdini's bump as smaller, so you can judge by whatever metric you'd like; for now, I'm at least going to factor it in.)

The unconvinced will argue that it's not *that* much of an increase, so let's put it in clearer context. Of Houdini's 18 films, the most he ever cast against himself was a single dislike for Bitch Slap. This is compared to 12 likes, 5 of them super, and two Top Fifteen appearances. Houdini literally only disliked a single film he proposed.

He's not the only offender, with Elad holding a 223.40% increase himself, and actually was in the negatives before his own survey helped to balance that out. Like Houdini, Elad also has an eye-popping stat: of his 25 films, he cast only three dislikes (though he did put Lep: Back 2 tha Hood in his Bottom Fifteen). This goes against the 16 likes, 9 of them super, and two Top Fifteen appearances.

Next on the list are Phil and Snobhunter, each with a hefty point increase, but nothing in the +100% range. Just like Houdini, Phil cast only a single dislike against himself for Fronterz, in comparison to his 17 self likes, 8 of them super, and six of them in his Top Fifteen. The Man may have overinflated his point total, but at least he had the decency to cast a couple super dislikes his own way.

Snobhunter is a unique standout, where of his 24 films, he actually cast six dislikes against himself, two of them super, and Jackie made his Bottom Fifteen. What really damns Snobby is the fact that none of his other films even earned so much as an Indifferent: the other 18 were all liked, 7 of them super, with four Top Fifteen appearances.

TBP was an even split: 3 likes, 1 super, 3 dislikes, 1 super, 1 Bottom Fifteen, 1 Top Fifteen. I, meanwhile, was fucking savage against myself with 13 dislikes against 35 films, 4 of them super dislikes, 2 Bottom Fifteen appearances, and was the only attendee to included more of his own films on his Bottom Fifteen than Top Fifteen. And before you point out that I knew I would be studying voting bias, you all did too: it was my keystone feature of the 2013 survey.

So while I may have taken a number of cheap shots against The Man up until this point, I hope he feels somewhat vindicated to learn that not only is he not alone, depending on your metric, he might not even be the worse offender.

But let's go deeper - before we close this thing out - and look at not just self-votes, but how each person voted on an individual level. (Just kidding: I'll spend the entire time talking about self votes, so offended was I to see the numbers in a larger perspective.)

 

 

The Man

Proposer All Time X 8
Points Avg Points Avg
The Man 36.20 4.32 289.62 (+231.26) 4.32 (+3.45)
Snobby 7.65 2.55 61.17 (+15.78) 2.55 (+0.66)
Houdini 0.98 0.43 7.78 (-2.97) 0.43 (-0.17)
Alaay 1.09 0.21 8.75 (+11.88) 0.21 (+0.28)
TBP -4.69 -3.13 -37.51 (-29.85) -3.13 (-2.49)
Elad -6.07 -1.94 -48.53 (-55.34) -1.94 (-2.21)
MMZ -14.97 -3.42 -119.74 (-94.06) -3.42 (-2.56)
Phil -16.38 -4.37 -131.04 (-78.86) -4.37 (-2.88)

 

{Quick note: the X 8 field is the voter's values multipled by 8. Why? Because it looks at the survey as if all eight participants voted the exact same way as The Man. Originally I tried explaining the ridiculousness of some of these votes with the numbers under the "All Time" section, but they were too small to properly explain what was actually happening. By scaling up each person's votes, you get a cleaner sense of just how much each voter does and does not like their fellow attendee's films.}

Hahahaha of course I'm not done making fun of The Man.

TM holds two distinct honors: among all attendees, he cast the most votes for a single person (himself) and the most votes against a single person (Phil). The next-most points cast for a favorite was 19.38, so it's clear that The Man really fucking loves his own movies. How much does he love his own movies? If MovieFest were attended by eight The Mans, his films would clock in at a whopping +289.62 pts or a 4.32 average. Essentially this means that The Man feels as though all of his films, good and bad, when averaged out, are slightly above the quality of 11:14 (4.31). This is the same person who made us watch Chi-Raq.

To TM's credit, he doesn't *only* like his own films, he just likes them a tremendous amount more than what everyone else has to offer. Snobhunter is the only other clear favorite, and his average-per-film would actually go up under The Man's regime, though he'd still be dwarfed at second place. Houdini and Alaay would both barely eek into the positives, and then everything else is a shitshow.

Eladamri would suffer a collosal -55.34 pt drop, but he wouldn't be alone. Everyone in The Man's hatelist would have a -2.00 average, which means he feels these people's contributions are each *worse* than our actual group concensus regarding MMZ (who, as a reminder, has a -1.49 average). Phil in particular would get utterly decimated with a -131.04 point total and -4.37 average, which means that The Man dislikes Phil's films more than anyone else dislikes anything in this survey. Someone has to lose out when you're casting all those points on yourself, and that someone just happens to be everyone else.

 

Phil

Proposer All Time X 8
Points Avg Points Avg
Phil 19.38 0.65 155.03 (+180.71) 5.17 (+6.03)
Houdini 2.98 0.17 23.80 (+13.05) 1.32 (+0.72)
The Man 0.90 0.01 7.24 (-51.12) 0.11 (-0.78)
Alaay -0.72 -0.01 -5.74 (-2.61) -0.14 (-0.07)
TBP -0.79 -0.07 -6.31 (+1.35) -0.53 (+0.11)
Elad -3.14 -0.13 -25.09 (-31.90) -1.00 (-1.27)
Snobby -4.42 -0.18 -35.39 (-80.78) -1.47 (-3.36)
MMZ -9.36 -0.27 -74.86 (-22.68) -2.14 (-0.65)

 

Oh look, another person who mostly upvoted their only movies.

But how bad is Phil's selflove in comparison to The Man? An 8-block of identical Phil votes would only yield +155.03 pts for himself, whereas The Man had a monstrous +289.62. But you have to keep in mind that based on our results, there was a starting gap of 71.07 between the two which needs to added on to Phil's +155.03 to make sense. It's when you notice the change in average, where Phil would have taken himself from a -0.86 to a 5.17 or a +6.03 increase that you see the true ridiculousness of his voting, especially compared to The Man, who only gave himself a +3.45 bump to his average. (+3.45 is still pretty fucking high, but it's nothing compared to Phil's +6.03.) In context this means that Phil feels all of his movies average out to the quality of Troll 2, which, considering in the actual list he only has one movie that actually outperformed Troll 2 (Staten Island Summer), you can see why I might disagree with his self-assessment.

With all the votes going his own way, there wasn't much room to spread the love. Houdini is the only other person who would improve under the Phil system by more than doubling his score, but he would still be over 100 points short of the new king. The Man would also be in the positives, but that's after a -51.12 drop, which is the second-biggest drop for any other proposer on Phil's list.

The biggest drop belongs to Snobhunter, who is Phil's second-least-favorite proposer at an awful -35.39 or, to make it clearer, a -80.78 drop. According to Phil, we've all been grossly overvaluing Snobby's contributions. And while that drop may seem extreme, remember that The Man would have dropped Phil by over -90, and those two won't be the only ones with such severe divergences. While MMZ is still Phil's least-favorite proposer, Elad actually would have suffered a bigger drop in Phil's world, plummeting into the heavy negatives, though not nearly as bad as Snobhunter. (MMZ's new -2.14 average wouldn't be that bad when you recall that The Man would have given Phil a -4.37, showing just how deeply TM despises Phil's films.)

Let's see who else is guilty of biased voting!

 

Eladamri

Proposer All Time X 8
Points Avg Points Avg
Elad 12.32 0.49 98.58 (+91.77) 3.94 (+3.67)
Snobby 4.64 0.19 37.13 (-8.26) 1.55 (-0.34)
The Man 7.52 0.11 60.15 (+1.79) 0.90 (+0.01)
Phil 1.33 0.04 10.63 (+36.31) 0.35 (+1.21)
TBP 0.22 0.01 1.80 (+9.46) 0.15 (+0.79)
Houdini -2.59 -0.14 -20.75 (-31.50) -1.15 (-1.75)
Alaay -6.52 -0.15 -52.19 (-49.06) -1.24 (-1.17)
MMZ -15.96 -0.46 -127.67 (-75.49) -3.65 (-2.16)

 

Also voted for himself as his favorite proposer.

Again, while Elad's sub-100 total is less than what both Phil and The Man would have cast for themselves, it's still a huge +91.77 increase. Snobby and The Man are both in the positives, and even though Snobby would suffer a drop and The Man a rise, it wouldn't be enough for The Man to overtake his competition for that second place.

Phil also does well under his friend's system, and Elad is a nice exception where the majority of the proposers are in the positives for a change. What that means, of course, is that the bottom three have to do considerably poorly, which is indeed the case. Houdini, Alaay, and especially MMZ are heavily in the red, with each suffering a large drop as they go. So far that's three straight people who think MMZ should have done *worse* than he actually did, which means at some point in the remaining five voters he'll have to do real well to balance out all this negativiy. We've also seen three voters in a row whose results are so skewed towards their own films that it's almost as though the only true way to achieve balance were if this trend were to continue.

Let's find out.

 

MagicManZach

Proposer All Time X 8
Points Avg Points Avg
MMZ 11.67 0.33 93.33 (+145.51) 2.67 (+4.16)
Snobby 6.76 0.28 54.11 (+8.72) 2.25 (+0.36)
Elad 5.10 0.20 40.84 (+34.03) 1.63 (+1.36)
Phil 2.84 0.09 22.71 (+48.39) 0.76 (+1.62)
Alaay 0.25 0.00 2.00 (+5.13) 0.05 (+0.12)
The Man -3.92 -0.06 -31.39 (-89.75) -0.47 (-1.36)
Houdini -3.48 -0.19 -27.86 (-38.61) -1.55 (-2.15)
TBP -3.49 -0.29 -27.93 (-20.27) -2.33 (-1.69)

 

And lo, another person who most enjoyed their own films. This one is particularly egregious since it's our bottom-place candidate vaulting himself to the top, which helps show how all those anti-MMZ votes from before were balanced out. They were balanced because of him.

MMZ's personal total for himself (93.33) is almost the same as Elad's personal total (98.58), but when you consider that MMZ started out at -52.18 compared to Elad's 6.81, you can see how huge the shift needed to be for MMZ to bring himself to the top of his own list (+145.51). Very close to him - at least as far as average-per-film goes - would be Snobhunter, whose fewer films helped his lower point total stay within reach of the MagicMan. But they're not alone as Elad, Phil, and Alaay would all receive a healthy increase under the MMZ system, albeit with Alaay more a break-even candidate.

His least-favorite proposer is TBP, but he's not the worse-performing. That distinction goes to The Man, who would be the big loser in MMZ's world, plummeting nearly 90 points and landing into the negatives. One thing you'll notice is that MMZ's totals don't add up to 0. That's because he didn't case a Bottom Fifteen, which, if replicated eight times over, yields nearly 125 negative points that were never assigned. One can only imagine how much worse his bottom contenders would do had those points been factored in.

 

Snobhunter

Proposer All Time X 8
Points Avg Points Avg
Snobby 11.32 0.47 90.61 (+45.22) 3.78 (+1.89)
The Man 13.77 0.21 110.12 (+51.76) 1.64 (+0.75)
MMZ -0.44 -0.01 -3.55 (+48.63) -0.10 (+1.39)
Alaay -0.98 -0.02 -7.82 (-4.69) -0.19 (-0.12)
Houdini -2.34 -0.13 -18.69 (-29.44) -1.04 (-1.64)
TBP -1.73 -0.14 -13.83 (-6.17) -1.15 (-0.51)
Eladamri -4.97 -0.20 -39.72 (-46.53) -1.59 (-1.86)
Phil -10.83 -0.36 -86.66 (-60.98) -2.89 (-2.03)

 

Yes, even Snobhunter is guilty of casting the most points for himself. (Not technically true, actually, as The Man barely eeks out more points than him, but since Snobby has fewer films, he would yield a massively better average.) I already explained how Snobhunter didn't mark a single one of his films as Indifferent, and all those like votes go a long way. It's actually amusing to see that only two people in Snobhunter's vision generally bring enjoyable films: himself and his closest competition. Game respects game.

That's not to say his disliked candidates are particularly disliked. Houdini suffered a big drop, but Alaay and TBP aren't much worse off than they were before, and MMZ would actually have a huge improvement in this world, even if he were still (barely) in the negatives. The real biggest losers of Snobhunter's list come from both Elad and Phil, dropping a combined -100 points and easily being considered his least-enjoyed proposers. Still, one has to recall that Phil's adjusted -2.89 average from Snobhunter is nothing compared to The Man's -4.37 for him, so it could always be worse for Phil.

 

Houdini

Proposer All Time X 8
Points Avg Points Avg
Houdini 8.19 0.46 65.53 (+54.78) 3.64 (+3.04)
Snobby 6.74 0.28 53.94 (+8.55) 2.25 (+0.36)
Alaay 5.49 0.13 43.95 (+47.08) 1.05 (+1.12)
The Man 4.59 0.06 36.77 (-21.59) 0.55 (-0.34)
TBP 0.07 0.00 0.52 (+8.18) 0.04 (+0.68)
Eladamri -5.72 -0.22 -45.77 (-52.58) -1.83 (-2.10)
MMZ -8.88 -0.25 -71.04 (-18.86) -2.03 (-0.54)
Phil -10.58 -0.35 -84.64 (-58.96) -2.82 (-1.96)

 

What's this? Houdini at the top of Houdini's list? What are the odds?

Yes, Houdini's self total of 65.53 is much smaller than the others, but with only 18 films under his belt it's still a very large 3.64 average. The only person who had a similar shift would be Alaay, leaping to his third place but till significantly trailing in average-per-film. This is also another list where The Man was in the positives while still suffering a noticeable drop, which is simply how everyone else balanced out all those self-votes that The Man cast for himself.

While MMZ is still suffering in the negatives, he didn't do nearly as badly as both Phil and Elad, each with large downward shifts. We're used to seeing Phil at the bottom of most people's lists, which is why his defenders (Elad, MMZ, and, of course, himself) really helped keep him from that last-place spot.

Another important thing to keep in mind with Houdini is that he originally cast +36.9 pts overall for the survey before I normalized the results, and since many of his most-liked films were his own, that scaling gets even crazier without normalization. When you take that normalization away, his self-average balloons up to a hilarious 4.86, so my crazy scoring system actually happened Houdini to look slightly less biased.

At this point the pattern is clear. So far everyone is guilty of upvoting their own films, and even if some were more guilty than others, Houdini's +3.04 increase on his average is still really high. The lowest self-boost in average was Snobhunter at a still-pretty-large +1.89. So what I've determined is that perhaps this was a necessary evil, as each person's mutual self interest helped balance out our totals to something more realistic. Perhaps your collective personal self-indulgence was the only proper defense. After all, one person can't skew the results in their favor if everyone is doing it.

 

TheBluePlayer

Proposer All Time X 8
Points Avg Points Avg
Houdini 5.89 0.33 47.09 (+36.34) 2.62 (+2.02)
Eladamri 6.13 0.25 49.03 (+42.22) 1.96 (+1.69)
Snobby 3.72 0.15 29.72 (-15.67) 1.24 (-0.65)
TBP 0.50 0.04 3.96 (+11.62) 0.33 (+0.97)
Alaay -1.34 -0.03 -10.69 (-7.56) -0.25 (-0.18)
The Man -4.10 -0.06 -32.76 (-91.12) -0.49 (-1.38)
MMZ -4.13 -0.12 -33.02 (+19.16) -0.94 (+0.55)
Phil -6.12 -0.20 -48.95 (-23.27) -1.63 (-0.77)

 

We've come to the end of the road, with TBP just not interested enough in his own shitty movies to fall for my trap. Houdini so far is the only contestant to place at the top of two different candidates' favorite voter lists, though we've seen the reason why. And while his jump would be impressive, it's actually not as significant as Eladamri, who would take the point lead in a TBP world and command a respectable 1.96 average. Snobhunter is still up there, albeit with a slight dip, and TBP barely pushed himself in the positives, albeit with a very weak 3.96 total. That certainly puts The Man's adjusted 289.62 in comparison. (Again, not necessarily a fair point to make since more films = more points, but on the other hand, come the fuck on already.)

Phil and MMZ sit once again in the gutter, but MMZ actually would have a decent improvement in TheBluePlayer's system. No, once again the real loser is The Man, who would actually have a similar point total to MMZ before you adjust their averages out based on their film total (to which The Man has a significant edge). Ultimately TheBluePlayer isn't as enamored with TM's masterpieces as the others, and he clearly longs for a return to the days when Elad was allowed to roam free and propagate the fest with whatever random film he happened to snatch off of Blockbuster's shelf.

 

Alaay

Proposer All Time X 8
Points Avg Points Avg
Snobby 8.93 0.37 71.41 (+26.02) 2.98 (+1.09)
TBP 2.25 0.19 18.01 (+25.67) 1.50 (+2.14)
Eladamri 3.14 0.16 25.13 (+18.32) 1.01 (+0.74)
Houdini 1.14 0.06 9.11 (-1.64) 0.51 (-0.09)
The Man 3.39 0.05 27.15 (-31.21) 0.41 (-0.48)
Alaay -0.41 -0.00 -3.28 (-0.15) -0.08 (-0.01)
Phil -5.31 -0.18 -42.49 (-16.81) -1.42 (-0.56)
MMZ -10.11 -0.29 -80.90 (-28.72) -2.31 (-0.82)

 

It's almost as though I engineered this entire scoring system and honed in on the exact data I wanted to demonstrate how much of a humble son of a bitch I am. Yes, in Alaay's world he's not only not the best proposer, he falls in the fucking negatives. So much do I believe in excellence in MovieFest selection that I judge myself with a harshness for my failures that is - clearly based on the results - utterly foreign to six of you.

But enough talking about how awesome I am, let's talk about how awesome Snobhunter is, whose adjusted 71.41 total is almost as good as what Snobhunter cast for himself. Snobby's dominant lead in the Alaay list is especially pronounced when you realized the second-place proposer, TBP, is hanging on mostly on account of having a low number of proposed films. Alaay's list doesn't have those severe +/-80 pt shifts of the other lists, but instead spreads out the love and hate fairly evenly. Phil and MMZ do a little worse in this world and The Man in particular suffers, even if he does still wind up in the positives. Houdini had almost no shift at all, and ultimately what we see is a man whose humbleness is so great that he's barely a factor in his own list. It's almost as though the House of Alaay might not have fallen at all if he had been as self-indulgent as everyone else. Not that he's bitter about it. Certainly not. He loves that everyone padded their stats and as a result he slunk into the negatives. He's totally happy with the results and will in no way be petitioning the Voting Chairman for a redo.

 

Anyway, there you have it, folks. Another hundreds of hours of work, another survey done, another bundle of useless analysis collected, and another round of me mocking my friends mercilessly. What surprises will 2021 have in store? Who knows. Whatever they are, we know one thing is clear: none of you bastards are going to stop upvoting yourselves any time soon.

This is Alaay, signing off.

 

 

-Alaay-